Now missionaries try converting Mahatma Gandhi to christianity after his death

Home minister Shivraj Patil says Mahatma was influenced by christ than Buddha. Of course he didn't say that Mahatma was influenced more by christ than Bhagavad Gita.

CSI Immanuel church dedicated in Kochi

KOCHI: Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil said that Mahatma Gandhi was more influenced by Jesus Christ than Buddha.

Inaugurating the dedication ceremony of the CSI Immanuel Church in Kochi on Saturday, Patil said that Gandhiji’s preaching of ahimsa was born out of love.

Only love for the entire humanity and not a section of the society will serve the purpose of the religion and the worship centres.

Respect and consideration for other religions should also be preached, he said.

State Home Minister Kodiyeri Balakrishnan, who attended the function, said that the services offered by the Christian churches were instrumental in moulding a new Kerala society.

During the pre-independence era, when untouchability and superstitions ruled the roost, Christian churches contributed a lot to the creation of a new social order.

Bishop K.P. Kuruvila of North Kerala Diocese presided over the function.

Opposition leader Oommen Chandy and Joseph Mar Thoma, metropolitan, Mar Thoma Church, addressed the gathering.

Immanuel CSI church vicar T.I. James welcomed the gathering and J. Oommen proposed a vote of thanks.

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Here is Mahatma Gandhi's view on christianity.

Mahatma on conversion

Gandhiji was not awarded the Nobel peace prize because he refused to be converted. Now that missionaries are spreading their tentacles far and wide in India converting people by allurement, inducement and fraud (In the north east killings and threats are becoming commonplace) Gandhiji's message is all the more relevant in understanding and reacting to this problem. Missionary Terrorism will become as dangerous as Islamic terrorism if ignored. Please read & distribute.

Compiled by Swami Aksharananda

(Track No. 010119.1, Jan. 19, 2001)

I Call Myself a Sanatani Hindu

I call myself a Sanatani Hindu, because I believe in the Vedas, the Upanishads, the Puranas, and all that goes by the name of Hindu scripture, and therefore in avataras and rebirth; I believe in the varnashrama dharma in a sense, in my opinion strictly Vedic but not in its presently popular and distorted crude sense; I believe in the protection of cow. I do not disbelieve in murti puja. (Young India: June 10, 1921)


Why I am Not a Convert

Hinduism as I know it entirely satisfies my soul, fills my whole being. When doubts haunt me, when disappointments stare me in the face, and when I see not one ray of light on the horizon, I turn to the Bhagavad Gita, and find a verse to comfort me; and I immediately begin to smile in the midst of overwhelming sorrow. My life has been full of tragedies and if they have not left any visible and indelible effect on me, I owe it to the teachings of the Bhagavad Gita. (Young India: June 8, 1925)

I Disbelieve in Conversion

I disbelieve in the conversion of one person by another. My effort should never to be to undermine another's faith. This implies belief in the truth of all religions and, therefore, respect for them. It implies true humility. (Young India: April 23, 1931)

Conversion: Impediment to Peace

It is impossible for me to reconcile myself to the idea of conversion after the style that goes on in India and elsewhere today. It is an error which is perhaps the greatest impediment to the world's progress toward peace. Why should a Christian want to convert a Hindu to Christianity? Why should he not be satisfied if the Hindu is a good or godly man? (Harijan: January 30, 1937)

No Such Thing as Conversion

I believe that there is no such thing as conversion from one faith to another in the accepted sense of the word. It is a highly personal matter for the individual and his God. I may not have any design upon my neighbour as to his faith which I must honour even as I honour my own. Having reverently studied the scriptures of the world I could no more think of asking a Christian or a Musalman, or a Parsi or a Jew to change his faith than I would think of changing my own. (Harijan: September 9, 1935)

No Conversion Designs Upon Me

I am not interested in weaning you from Christianity and making you Hindu, and I do not relish your designs upon me, if you had any, to convert me to Christianity. I would also dispute your claim that Christianity is the only true religion. (Harijan: June 3, 1937)

Conversion

Conversion must not mean denationalization. Conversion should mean a definite giving up of the evil of the old, adoption of all the good of the new and a scrupulous avoidance of everything evil in the new. Conversion, therefore, should mean a life of greater dedication to one's country, greater surrender to God, greater self-purification. (Young India: August 20, 1925)

Aping of Europeans and Americans

As I wander about through the length and breath of India I see many Christian Indians almost ashamed of their birth, certainly of their ancestral religion, and of their ancestral dress. The aping of Europeans by Anglo-Indians is bad enough, but the aping of them by Indian converts is a violence done to their country and, shall I say, even to their new religion. (Young

India: August 8, 1925)

Why Should I Change My Religion

I hold that proselytisation under the cloak of humanitarian work is unhealthy to say the least. It is most resented by people here. Religion after all is a deeply personal thing. It touches the heart.

Why should I change my religion because the doctor who professes Christianity as his religion has cured me of some disease, or why should the doctor expect me to change whilst I am under his influence? (Young India: April 23, 1931)

Missionary Aim: Uprooting Hinduism

My fear is that though Christian friends nowadays do not say or admit it that Hindu religion is untrue, they must harbour in their breast that Hinduism is an error and that Christianity, as they believe it, is the only true religion. So far as one can understand the present (Christian) effort, it is to uproot Hinduism from her very foundation and replace it by

another faith. (Harijan: March 13,1937)

Undermining People's Faith

The first distinction I would like to make between your missionary work and mine is that while I am strengthening the faith of people, you (missionaries) are undermining it. (Young India: November 8, 1927)

Physician Heal Yourself

Conversion nowadays has become a matter of business, like any other. India (Hindus) is in no need of conversion of this kind. Conversion in the sense of self-purification, self-realization is the crying need of the times. That however is never what is meant by proselytization. To those who would convert India (Hindus), might it not be said, "Physician, heal yourself." (Young India: April 23, 1931)

Missionaries: Vendors of Goods

When the missionary of another religion goes to them, he goes like a vendor of goods. He has no special spiritual merit that will distinguish him from those to whom he goes. He does however possess material goods which he promises to those who will come to his fold. (Harijan: April 3, 1937)

If I had the Power and Could Legislate.

If I had the power and could legislate, I should stop all proselytizing. In Hindu households the advent of a missionary has meant the disruption of the family coming in the wake of change of dress, manners, language, food and drink . (November 5, 1935)

The Only Begotten Son of God?

I regard Jesus as a great teacher of humanity, but I do not regard him as the only begotten son of God. That epithet in its material interpretation is quite unacceptable. Metaphorically we are all sons of God, but for each of us there may be different sons of God in a special sense. Thus for me Chaitanya may be the only begotten son of God. God cannot be the exclusive Father and I cannot ascribe exclusive divinity to Jesus. (Harijan: June 3, 1937)

Western Christianity Today

It is my firm opinion that Europe (and the United States) does not represent the spirit of God or Christianity but the spirit of Satan. And Satan's successes are the greatest when appears with the name of God on his lips. (Young India: September 8, 1920)

I consider western Christianity in its practical working a negation of Christ's Christianity. I cannot conceive Jesus, if he was living in flesh in our midst, approving of modern Christian organizations, public worship, or ministry. (Young India: September 22, 1921)

Christianity and Imperialistic Exploitation

Christianity in India has been inextricably mixed up for the last one hundred and fifty years with British rule. It appears to us as synonymous with materialistic civilization and imperialistic exploitation by the stronger white races of the weaker races of the world. Its contribution to India has been, therefore, largely negative. (Young India: March 21, 1929)

No Room For Them

In the manner in which they are working there would seem to be no room for them. Quite unconsciously they do harm to themselves and also to us. It is perhaps impertinent to say that they do harm to themselves, but quite pertinent to say that they do harm to us. They do harm to those amongst whom they work and those amongst whom they do not work, i.e., the harm is done to the whole of India. The more I study their activities the more sorry I become. It is a tragedy that such a thing should happen to the human family. (Harijan: December 12, 1936)

Outrage!

Only the other day a missionary descended on a famine area with money in his pocket, distributed it among the famine stricken, converted them to his fold, took charge of their temple, and demolished it. This is outrageous. (Harijan: November 5, 1937)

Let the Hindu be a Better Hindu

I came to the conclusion long ago that all religions were true and also that all had some error in them, and whilst I hold by my own, I should hold others as dear as Hinduism. So we can only pray, if we are Hindus, not that a Christian should become a Hindu. But our innermost prayer should be a Hindu should be a better Hindu, a Muslim a better Muslim, a Christian a better Christian. (Young India: January 19, 1928)

Welcome Them Back

If a person through fear, compulsion, starvation, or for material gain or consideration goes over to another faith, it is a misnomer to call it conversion. Most cases of conversion have been to my mind false coin. I would therefore unhesitatingly re-admit to the Hindu fold all such repentants without much ado. If a man comes back to the original branch he deserves to be welcomed in so far as he may deem to have erred, he has sufficiently purged himself of it when he repents his error and retraces his steps. (Collected Works: Vol. 66, pp. 163-164)

NOTE: As a Hindu courtesy, please acknowledge Swami Aksharanandaji who compiled this information and Vidya Bharati, New York who produced it. Please circulate as widely as possible.

Hindus....forgotten in their own land

It is irony that Hindus are made refugees in their own land. None of the secular media talks about their plight. Worst these media refer them as Kashmiri Pandits and not Hindus. When will Hindus realize that they are being victimized in their own land and join together to fight against the muzzies and xtians?

These Hindus are thrown out of their land and couldn't resettle in their land for last 18 years. Would the Indian media remain mute spectator as they are doing today if Gujarati muslims weren't resettled in their land?

http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=128428

‘ROOTS IN Kashmir’ a frontline youth group raising awareness about the atrocities inflicted upon the Hindu minority of Kashmir has condemned the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) for not coming to the rescue of the Kashmiri Pandits. It has been almost 14 years since the formation of the NHRC; it has completely failed to address the grievances of the Pandit community, which is living in the 18th year of exile from their homeland, Kashmir.

Kashmiri Pandit children accompanied by activists and common people under the banner of ‘Roots In Kashmir’ held a silent protest at Indira Park on the eve of International Human Rights Day to bring to light the injustice being done with Kashmiri Pandits. Similar protests were organized in various parts of the country by it at places such as Delhi, Jammu, Bangalore and Pune.

To escape persecution, more than 350,000 Kashmiri Pandits had to leave their home and hearths back in the valley of which more than 50,000 refugees are still languishing in uninhabitable refugee camps in Jammu and Delhi.

“The NHRC is a phantom we only hear about but haven’t seen any evidence of. Our community has submitted memorandums, fought cases and appealed to the senior bureaucrats and officials about the situation but to no avail,” said Santosh Razdan who lives with her son in Hyderabad.

“We have lived our lives in Kashmir but it sounds like a distant dream today, all because of the negligence of the responsible authorities.” she added.

In spite of cases of serious nature pending against terrorists like Yasin Malik and Bitta Karate, they roam free and further get all support from the Indian Government; whereas the Pandits continue to live a life of refugee’s in their own country. While, Yasin Malik himself is responsible for killing hundreds of innocents in the valley mercilessly; he now claims to be a human rights activist championing the cause of so-called freedom. He has no right morally to speak on such an issue of sensitive nature in which he himself stands guilty of initiating the gun culture and bloodshed in the peaceful valley.

The NHRC and the home ministry, government of India have, in a written communication through Right To Information Act 2005, said that they don’t have any data on terrorist Bitta Karate of JKLF; while it’s a known fact that there are cases pending against him in courts. It also said that they have no information on the number of Pandits killed in the valley since 1989. Further, NHRC has failed to do justice with the community, as till date there has been no probe on the reasons behind the exodus of them.

The International Human Rights groups like Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have deliberately failed to frame charges against Malik and other serial killers. Their biased nature is quite visible for last almost a decade. The blind attitude to the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the entire Pandit community by these agencies speaks at large of the discrimination being done with the aboriginal people of Kashmir.

‘Roots In Kashmir’ endeavors to bring to light the real culprits and murderers of innocent Kashmiris. We would like to have an answer as to what happened to our human rights?” said Amrita Kar, Volunteer of RIK.

Our demands from the government of India:

1. An enquiry commission to be set up to come out with a report on reasons of exodus of Kashmiri Pandits.

2. Capital punishment for terrorists like Bitta Karate and Yasin Malik.

3. Kashmiri Pandits be declared as Internally Displaced People (IDP’s) and thus be given the required benefits.

4. Reconstruction of desecrated and destroyed shrines.

5. All property sales after 1989 to be declared null and void.

6. Better rehabilitation of people living in inhuman camps in Jammu and Delhi.

The bigger terrorists

An excellent article by B. Raman. Hindus need to understand that the bigger terrorists are the ones who give moral support to them.

Let us shed tears for ourselves

Large sections of the nation shed tears on July 11, 2007, in memory of the 190 innocent Indians belonging to different religions who were killed a year ago in a series of explosions in suburban trains of Mumbai by jehadi terrorists inspired by the ideology of Al Qaeda. Their tears were also an expression of solidarity with the surviving relatives of these victims.

Just as millions of Americans and their leaders belonging to both sides of the political spectrum shed tears on September 11 every year in memory of the over 2,500 innocent civilians belonging to different nations who were killed by Al Qaeda in the US homeland on September 11,2001, and in solidarity with their relatives.

Just as millions of Indonesians and Australians and their political leaders shed years every year on the anniversary of the Bali bombing of October, 2002, in which nearly 200 innocent civilians-Indonesians, Australians and others- were blown to pieces by jehadi terrorists.

Just as millions of Spanish people, their royal family and their political leaders shed tears every year on the anniversary of the Madrid bombing of March, 2004, in which the jehadi terrorists targeted suburban trains, killing nearly 200 innocent civilians.

Just as millions of British, their royal family and their political leaders shed tears every year on the anniversary of the London bombings of July, 2005, in which jehadi suicide terrorists targeted the public transportation system killing over 50 innocent civilians.

There was a significant difference between the observance of the anniversaries of these great human tragedies inflicted on humanity by the jehadi terrorists in other countries and in India.

In other countries, the head of the State or Government participated in the observance of the anniversaries.On July 7, 2007, we saw on the TV touching scenes of Mr Gordon Brown, the British Prime Minister, and his wife visiting the tube stations where the terrorists struck and placing flowers at the scene of the tragedy.

In India, our so-called secular political class and elite kept away from the observance of the anniversary of the Mumbai tragedy of July 11, 2006.

Forget about flowers.

Not a drop of tear.

Not a word of sorrow.

Not a sign of grief.

Not a single expression of solidarity with the relatives of the victims.

I did not write this article yesterday because I waited to see whether our Prime Minister would fly to Mumbai and lead the people of the nation in remembering the innocent Indians-men, women and children- who were blown to pieces by the jehadi terrorists last year. I was convinced in my mind that he would not. Still, I was hoping that he would prove me wrong by participating in the observance of the anniversary. He didn’t.

Why he didn’t?

Busy dealing with grave crises confronting the nation?

No.

Lack of time?

No.

Bad weather?

No.

He did not attend because he was worried the Muslims might misunderstand.

He did not attend because he was worried that any public expression of sorrow for those blown up by the jehadi terrorists might be misinterpreted by the Muslims as stigmatising their community.

A few weeks after the Mumbai blasts of July 11, 2006, I had been to Kolkata to attend a conference.One of the eminent participants told me that a few days after the blasts there was a meeting in the Raj Bhawan chaired by the Governor of West Bengal to discuss some other subject. One of the participants proposed that they observe a two-minutes’ silence in memory of those killed in Mumbai.

The Governor ruled his suggestion out of order.

Why?

Lest the Muslims misinterpret it as stigmatising their community.

Jehadi terrorists can go on indulging in one act of mass casualty terrorism after another.

But, according to our so-called secular political class and elite, we should not talk about it or even cry about it.

Our anger, our tears, our exasperation at the failure of the Government to deal with them might be seen by the Muslims as stigmatising their community.

How many acts of jehadi terrorism we have had in India since the present Government came to power in Delhi in 2004?

Delhi, Varanasi, Mumbai, Malegaon, Bangalore, Samjota Express, Hyderabad.

Shri Shekhar Gupta, the Editor-in-Chief of the “Indian Express”, in a recent article drew attention to a fact to which I have been drawing attention in my writings for over a year. There has been no satisfactory progress in any of these investigations.

In the past, our Police might have been criticised in some instances for its inability to prevent acts of terrorism, but it had generally received very high praise for its successful investigation.

We all felt proud of the Mumbai Police of the 1990s recently when the case relating to the Mumbai blasts of March, 1993, in which about 250 innocent civilians were blown up by jehadi terrorists, ended in conviction. There were many other cases in which too the Mumbai Police of the 1990s had covered itself with credit.

So too the Delhi Police.

So too the Police of other cities.

Why there is a perception now that they are not as good as they were in the 1990s?

Has there been a deterioration in their competence?

No. In the 1990s, they received the full backing of the political leadership of those years, which took active interest in the investigation.

The political leadership of those years did not give sermons to the police not to do anything which might be viewed by the Muslims as stigmatising or targeting their community.

It refrained from inhibiting a thorough investigation through such sermons.

The political leadership of the past provided leadership and guidance. It took active interest in the investigation. It was determined that the guilty will be brought to book, even if they be Muslims.

The political leadership of today gives sermons and no leadership. It avoids active monitoring and supervision of the investigation lest the Muslims misunderstand.

I was in service at the height of terrorism in Punjab and Jammu & Kashmir under leaders like Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi and Narasimha Rao.

They never gave sermons.

I had never heard expressions like “stigmatising a community” or “targeting a community” etc coming out of their mouth.

In the past, we used to accuse Western countries of following double standards in counter-terrorism because of their reluctance to co-operate with us.

We accused them of adopting an over-legalistic approach in order to avoid co-operating with us.

Since the botched-up London and Glasgow terrorist strikes by a joint Arab-Indian jehadi cell, we have been guilty of the same sins of commission and omission which we attributed to the West in the past.

Much of the initial leads about the Indian participants and their jehadi background before they migrated to the UK came from the Karnataka Police. It is they who were the first to identify the man who drove the car, which crashed into the Glasgow airport, as Kafeel Ahmed, an Indian national.

They were also the first to identify him as an aeronautical engineer and not a doctor.

They were also the first to establish that he became Wahabised in Bangalore and not in London, Belfast, Cambridge or Glasgow. He was not infected in the UK. He carried the jehadi infection to the UK from India.

Leaders of the Indian Muslim community are worried that digging out the truth might lead to a stigmatisation of the Indian Muslims abroad.

They express their concern to the so-called secular political leadership. What does it do?

Till recently, our Prime Minister was giving sermons to our police and intelligence agencies not to do anything, which might be viewed by the Muslims as stigmatising their community.

Now, he gives a ring to Mr.Gordon Brown and gives him a sermon about the importance of not doing anything which might stigmatise the Muslim community.

The Australian Police want some quick check-up about the antecedents of an Indian Muslim doctor from Bangalore under interrogation by them. He is related to one of the Indian perpetrators of the London and Glasgow attempts and had lived with them in the UK before migrating to Australia.

What do we do?

The Central Bureau of Investigation gives them a sermon about the importance of making their request through proper channel.

Just as the Western Police and intelligence agencies used to tell us in the past when we asked for a quick check-up of a terrorism-related information.

New Delhi is afraid that any over-enthusiasm by our police and investigative and intelligence agencies in co-operating with the British and Australian investigators making preliminary enquiries about the suspected Indian Muslims might be viewed by the Indian Muslim community as stigmatising them.

So, the message is: Drag your feet in co-operating with the British and Australians.

The sensitivities and feelings of the Muslims are more important than saving innocent civilians-whether in India, the UK or Australia-by exposing the jehadi iceberg and neutralising it before it is too late.

We shed tears for the victims of last year’s Mumbai explosions yesterday.

Let us shed tears for ourselves today for having the misfortune of having a Government for which the feelings of the Muslims are more important than saving the lives of innocent civilians from the continued depredations of the jehadi terrorists. (12-7-07)